And what of our man Renfrow? We're talking legend here. In addition to his aforementioned pedigree, Warren went to war as a touring bassist with The Damned and Adolescents.
Logistics and schedules prevented us from capturing Warren for Know Your Bass Player on Film - though Mark, Mark, Derek and I will see to it that we do.
Until then, we give you the words of Warren Renfrow.
Were the Renfrows a musical family? While I’m the only one in my family to play an instrument, I grew up in a household with seven siblings. I was exposed to everything they listened to — mostly '60s pop/rock, with an emphasis on the Beatles and the Stones. My older brother was the closest in age to me. He took me to a lot of really great concerts like Elton John, AC/DC (with Bon Scott), The Who with Keith Moon, and one of the first tours by Elvis Costello and the Attractions.
At what point in your formative years did you gravitate towards playing a musical instrument? Like most kids, I air guitared with a stick or a broom. Then a family friend gave me a little Sears bass and amplifier (kinda wish I still had it). I remember sitting and trying to learn, playing along to side one of the first Rodney on the Roq album.
Describe the moment you first became aware of the bass - was it a record, a song you heard on the radio, a performance? It was probably listening to Dee Murray playing on "Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding" from Elton John's Goodbye Yellow Brick Road album. The sound, the tone…the way it pops out and drives the song.
How did you evolve into Warren the bass player? I saw an old, grainy VHS of the original lineup of The Damned performing. Captain Sensible was playing bass. He just had such an attitude, and that’s who I wanted to be. I even tried wearing a beret and little round glasses, but I've got too big of a noggin to carry off that look. Continuing with the Damned, another big influence was Paul Gray. Back in 2002, I had the opportunity to be the fill-in bassist for the Damned when they opened for a Rob Zombie tour. It was an awesome feeling playing those songs that I revered, and nailing it. Leading up to the tour, the drummer, Pinch, and I rehearsed in a garage, then drove straight through to Houston where the rest of the band met us. During our one rehearsal before the tour, I was so exhausted from the drive that it didn’t even hit me that I was playing with my idols. Going through the set, "Wait for the Blackout" came up. As we were playing that song, I looked up and saw Captain Sensible and Dave Vanian and that’s when it hit me. That very moment — out of everything I’ve done musically — remains the most memorable.
Many folks, despite their love of music, are woefully unaware of the existence of the electric bass and what it does. Anyone ever ask you “what does that thing do?” I’ve never had to answer for it. The bass and drums (the rhythm section) are the engine of the machine. The rhythm section drives the song. When you’re tapping your foot, or nodding your head, or dancing… it’s to the rhythm section. If you wanna be the star of the band though, bass ain’t for you. You’d probably get more attention if you were in the witness protection program. But if you’re an introvert, it’s the perfect instrument.
Tell me about your first gig - triumph or tragedy? I will say my first gig was pretty fuckin' awesome. It was with my first band, The Inferior, with Ron Martinez, who I’d later play with again in Final Conflict. He's now in the Lower Class Brats. I'm sure we sucked but we had the time of our lives.
The Cadillac Tramps were an iconic So-Cal ensemble: tell me about the recordings and performances you are most proud of. I loved the music on the first two albums but they weren’t recorded well. Those records failed to capture us properly as a live unit. By our third album, It’s Alright, we actually had a pretty good producer named Howard Benson, and the sound quality was a lot better. As far as performances and touring, I look at it as an evolutionary process. You need to build a fanbase. When you first visit a town it's possible that you'll only play to 10 people. A few months later that crowd would grow to around 50, then 100. If you visit that market consistently, you'll eventually sell out the venue. Back then, during the early days of the Cadillac Tramps, it was all word of mouth. No internet. On the opposite end of the spectrum, I can remember taking the stage opening for Pearl Jam and hearing the roar of 12,000 people. I was overwhelmed. Tears welled up. As I reflect on that moment, I have to mention the Cadillac Tramps' dynamic and talented frontman, Mike "Gabby" Gaborno. He was the guy who made everybody in the room feel like his best friend. He had that gift.
Recall for me the emotions you felt when you first heard yourself on the radio with Cadillac Tramps. It was on 95.5 KLOS, Uncle Joe Benson’s "Local Licks." It was fuckin' cool. You turned on the radio and there you were. I never thought that would happen.
The Tramps were/are a tremendous influence on a generation of alternative rockers - comment on the band's legacy - what does that mean to you? It's nice to hear we were influential, but honestly, I sure as hell didn't know it. I haven’t given much thought to our legacy. I just look back on it as the best of times.
Final Conflict and Manic Hispanic also garnered acclaim aplenty - what was special about those ensembles? Final Conflict was special because it was my first real band. That band grew out of backyard parties, before we eventually played clubs. Now Manic Hispanic, that was special because it was a joke that took on a life of its own. Everybody in the band was of Mexican descent, so the twist was that we would take old classic punk songs and put our own cultural stamp on them. We would make them funny. It was a totally cool thing because we were all great friends and we'd get to goof out on these classic songs we loved, and laugh.
Tell me how Greg Anista recruited you to be one of The Lonely Streets. Back in the 1990s when the Tramps were at their apex, pretty much our favorite local band was Joyride with Steve Soto and Greg Antista. Steve and Greg shared singing and songwriting duties. I’ve always liked Greg’s songs. In between then and now, there were a lot of years where everyone settled down, had kids and kind of focused on that. Now everyone’s kids are older and getting out of the house. In 2017, Greg wanted to put a band together, and I believe it was Steve Soto who said, “Hey, why don’t you ask Warren to play with you.” Greg asked, and I’ve always loved his songs, so I said yeah and I’ve been having a blast ever since.
GAATLS are a group of friends and collective of rock and roll veterans - tell me how that affects the music - it sounds as if the band has been playing together for years! While I’m fortunate to have had the opportunity to play with many talented people, within the framework of a group, there’s a lot to be said for chemistry. When you like the people that you’re playing with, and you like the songs that you’re playing, it comes together quite easily. At this point in my life, I have to really like what I’m doing and have fun doing it, or it’s just not worth my time. I’m not going to play in a band just to play in a band.
Talk about recording SSS - did you work the songs out on the road first? The band certainly recreates the energy of a performance in the studio - not an easy thing to capture! Greg wrote all the songs acoustically and got together with us each individually, gave us his version, and then we all came up with our parts. The equation came together and gelled. Once again, a lot has to be said for chemistry. But if I would have to reveal our secret weapon, it would be Paul Miner at Buzz Bomb Studios. Paul is a great engineer and producer and he had a lot of great ideas during the sessions. I wish Paul was around when the Cadillac Tramps were recording.
SSS is a fantastic record - however we are living in a "post album" era. What are your opinions on the fact that the majority of music listeners stream single songs - is the album format dead? Is it relevant anymore? The album format was limited by how much music you could fit on two sides of a disc. Streaming music is the next evolutionary step. There are no limits to what people can create. I think the waters are still being navigated.
When you first picked up the bass, did you think you'd still be playing in your middle-age? It is more satisfying now as an experienced player as opposed to rocking in your younger ears? Early on, my only goal was to play parties, get fucked up, and get laid. Looking back on that now and where it’s taken me — and taking those goals into consideration — I have to say I am a major success. But it’s way more satisfying now. At the beginning I wasn’t part of the music. Now I am.
Recall for us your gig nightmare - that one show where everything that could go wrong went absolutely …wrong? There used to be these yearly shows called the Hootenanny. One year, the Stray Cats reunited to play the Hootenanny and the Cadillac Tramps were on the bill. I remember feeling really charged up and excited as we took the stage. Unbeknownst to us, our drummer had gotten really drunk in the lead up to our set. So instead of the Tramps hitting the stage like a wildcat, it was more like a beached whale. Horrible.
Who are some of your favorite bass players? Who were the players that inspired you even if you don't play like they do? I guess I could bring up the usual suspects, like McCartney or Jamerson. There was a time that I really wanted to be and play like Paul Gray, but now as I’ve gotten older, I find myself being more of a 'dug in, in the pocket' groove rhythmic player. And I’m amazed by guys like Conrad Lozano or the Mighty Gil T or John Baz. You can’t teach the way those guys play.
Aside from The Lonely Streets - what more would you like to accomplish before you call it a career? Once again, I just want to have fun playing music that I like. As long as that's happening, I'll never call it a career and I’ll go into the box playing.
Breaking News: Warren has waxed a new slab with Manic Hispanic slated for summer release!
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